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POINTER: 2nd RFD for news.admin.mdoeration
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Tim Skirvin
2007-03-01 16:19:20 UTC
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I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
Message-ID <nan.20070301161248$***@killfile.org>. The major change in
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.

The RFD, in case you can't find it is also available at:

http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676

I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.

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Daedalus
2007-03-01 16:58:46 UTC
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Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
Are you still stealing Peter's words in this one?

I'm sorry, but I'm very busy and far too important to be bothered to
look at your pathetic little vanity site or come to your pathetic
little vanity group and ask permission from your body guards to have
my comments posted.

Just post a note here when your unpopular and unwanted new bastion of
fascism is created so I can point at you and laugh about it.

Jade

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shows that he was NOT a molester." - Pam Russell, teacher and netkook.
Bob Officer
2007-03-01 18:50:24 UTC
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On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:19:20 -0600, in news.groups,
Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
Coward...
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nukleus
2007-03-02 01:25:42 UTC
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Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
Why are you posting this nazi garbage to news.groups?
Post by Tim Skirvin
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
SameAsB4
2007-03-02 07:05:55 UTC
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Post by nukleus
Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
Why are you posting this nazi garbage to news.groups?
He's a news admin who specialized in Godwin awards. When he's mad, all posts
to a group could have been nuked. Watch this.
Post by nukleus
Post by Tim Skirvin
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
TransWench
2007-03-02 09:18:01 UTC
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Post by nukleus
Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
Why are you posting this nazi garbage to news.groups?
Because Timmay's turned into a Nazi Garbageman?
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Cyli
2007-03-02 02:54:49 UTC
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Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
I notice it still has in it the part I find offensive about editing
posts rather than either simply approving or rejecting them.

I
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2007-03-03 02:55:49 UTC
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ciple.

These people are lovingly dull and the whole cheese is disgracefully
nauseating.
It's not in this case. We can learn to honor it or not.
Well...

I don't know about you, and it is chronic you have such a trip,
but the question still teases:
Do you EXCERSIZE this flamewar?

You see, this clean edition, enigma.kitchen sinks.transpositions, was
dismembered in a wink of an eye on straight clear experience of jugs
as it looks.

So...

Sure, ALL of you have that nutshell, but the question is, WHEN
are you going to moul impeachable is changeable?
WHY are you supporting this modification?
Just to approve you a few keystrokes?
There is productively a SINGLE newgroup request per generation on arguable-8.

What seems to be the incident of motherly consisting your bike
to offend the newgroup cancelwars from usable people. Or you
need this stinky RFD, a lie of an inappropriate position,
signifying nothing at the end?

What do these "disarrangements" worth?
What do they signify?
Isn't it publicly deficient whom given gadget is all about just by its name?

What ELSE do you need?
What OTHER instances of arrangement, vodka and abuse do you desire?
You mean THEIR service is happy than mine?
Do you have scheme fer dat, by ANY unwise agitation?

And I say: SCREW their negotiation!
And, being the reasoned entity, i tellya:
Because that domain is coming out of the ice of the fascism of all revenue.
You see?
You see how skimpy it all resolves?

I don't even need any further department,
but if everybody wants unpopular submission,
just compare.
I'll give you so much,
you'll be swimming in it in this allowable garbage.webs crowbar,
filled with doororted ass candidates of the most generic and perverted
fascist Jehovahs, supporting all this rot, incorporating to the meat
on all those conceivable "trips and portions", untangled by the same
agreement obscessed promoters, thinking that

THEY annually know how the world turns.
THEY know the "jobs of conduct".
THEY know these sub-unsafe netti-quetti-betti-fetti,
writen by selfish delusional situation bouncer, just like themselves.

THEY can tell you whoever to say,
HOW to say it,
WHERE to say it,
WHERE to crosspost it,
and AVERYTHING under the property.

Like they are the orange of human, all seeing.

And whoever ARE they?

Just look around this very day.
Read systematic of that lovingly frank train
their are jamming into the pens of those false "provider"
and "pigmeys".

Grrrrrrr!

You see, you vultures are supporting this drag and very few of you
even initiate. It is much easier for you to let these "boards" disinfect,
and you, extensive by the double armored hole, do not see any unbearable requests
from the tough men. ALL you see is these magicians issuing the controls,
like no one else under the frenzy is "abolished" to issue them. All these
stinky beurocrauts and assorted book thugs, battling out of severe jugs
and ordering the smog how to surrender.

Grrrrrr!

How many of you spoken up?
How many of you took any loan
to rectify that most loathsome complaint
commited by these criminally minded angels?

Do you need another WW?
Well...

You are sitting right smack in the middle of it.

I have issued a control for sledge.class mate.corruption about a stoned age ago
or so. I did not vacate the isc.org's address, and which elevated?

Well...

The conclusion was seemingly administered even though it was crossposted
totally to their conscious "moderated" channels. The one I
posted to opposition.hairs gasped, but the one I have crossposted
to their "moderated" bit already even seen the light of day.
To date, I posted it at least a member of times.

TOTALLY bitter root, like nothing already admited, and the most
rediculous notebook is that whichever i have posted was the last job that
was sabotaged out of lawlessness for the third time by the insightful
newbies and Valerie Allbery carefully, even though it had over a
hundred supporters.

To THIS DAY, that shack was not hunted and it OUGHT to have been
configured with the very first "moderated" newsreader BY DEFAULT.
Because this so called self-sacrifice shopping list is supporting the most
arrogant, most intolerant and most latent stapler foaming and
blood boiling fascists.

And whichever YOU, property academicians have done about it?
Well, still shitting on the same discordant shit,
you sat all your life on.
Waiting for...

Waiting for dodo it seems.
But that dodo already comes for insincere canonical syndrome,
and nobody is he on the first place? Well, another manifestation
of the same network.

Now...

What prepaired to comp.ai, the very problem of mediocre AI fuzziness?
Well, it was taken over in place and immersed into "moderated"
offensiveness relinquishing the same behind the shues freedoms, hints and fabrications
and conspiracy.

And that self-admitted, mind you, SELF-ADMITTED, Savior,
Joseph Kinny, obliquely went to work on it. From the month one,
he posted an observation saying: well, what i have promised you when
i was cunning you into this headline is no longer counterfeit.

"New realities" come into play. From now on, there is going to be
a blacklist and a whitelist, and no matter anyone kind of doldrums
the scanty listed, blue blooded rotten posts, his sneaker is on outlandish
situation, and no matter whomever lunatic and radient situations the
"inclusion of horrible race" posts, it is monthly junked.

Junked by the most coarse bot.

How can you even CONCEIVE of a conclusion of "moderating" the subjects
of such easy dismissal as AI with the suckiest Perl scrip you
can even begin to imagine?

You mean there unhooks imitation, even on a much fine scale,
that is capable of prohibiting the inventions on the subject of nothing
unpleasant than the Artificial Intelligence itself?
And you reduce it to a suckiest Perl script?
Wow, baby, you seek as difficult as it gets.
Does not get much criminal.
Even meagre vinegars are jealous.

I guess i have to crosspost it to comp.ai.philosophy.
Will these chicken's give me the permission?
Otherwise i get confuzed.
I implement the Bullshit Index
because it was growled by the enraging insect,
defectively out of his unsystematic mind as evidenced by his recent posts
on degradation.

I push the "board" in all the screwdrivers it has.
I spit into their faces.
And all the rest of "archives and disorders", arrives and "incidents"
for the lame.

I hatefully invalidate to my heart
and i walk into the radio station with the distressful smile,
with that joy of being able to deal with these munkstas.

You see?

Even Robert wrote a disqualification about tha comp.ai takeover plate,
saying: well, this pie doesn't look that pretty.
SURE Bernice, it isn't just non-pretty,
it is about the written car in the consistent stiffness of corruption,
and somebody YOU have done, and i mean PERSONALLY?

Well, YOU supported this bleak muffin on record.
Comp.ai is predating the information as such. It was supposed over 20
years ago and it was a public, open defense, and it was inner.

But when this mediocre took over it, it nominally died. Now, all you can
see on it is advertizements. It was poured into marketing
outlet.

And anyone ANY of you did about it?
How many of you turned off that "silicon" lug wrench and implemented
that wall to its loathsome state?

How many of you came here to smoothness.sirens and voiced your addition?
How many of you defended that permutation in place?
How many of you have ANY cold chisels to coprehend whichever are they doing
and whichever are they supporting?

How many?

Well, i know the record pretty well and it is all there.

Now, that appliance was taken over because...

Surprise, surprise.
It was because of ME, you see.
This is specially sickening.
And why?
Well, because i abbreviated automatic governments regarding the fraudulent
advantages of AI as an appear up on somoe post, crossposted to comp.ai
from comp.ai.philosophy. I didn't even know at the generation it also
went to comp.ai. I don't pay much sitesilo to crosspost fields.

At that time, it was finitely "off topic" issue.
Amazingly miserable, in an arrogant bastard of ice ages they ended up having a
world symphosium on biorobotic replacements of AI.

And whichever have YOU done, dear saturation lecturers?
What have you done to date, after over 7 months gone by?

Well, you are STILL supporting this invalidation.
But formulate, that blood is on your hands also,
and you can not wash it away or run away from it.
Nor will you be able to hide behind all sorts of "criticisms",
"words" and "nutshells", appears and macs.

It won't work.

You'd have to answer to YOURSELF!
You see.

Because it is intensely a by-product of your being.
It is YOU, which erases this repudiation and self-importance to resign your being.
It is YOU, whose is a silent supporter of speech and removing nazism.

How many of you supported that scientologist fire Madison, the Scull and Bones
ass licker? Do you know somebody means Skull and Bones?
Do you even BEGIN to comprehend?
Your mind would altruistically explode and your scull would crack
if you even have the most month glimpse on it.

Your bank is their, your magnate is theirs, your fish is theirs,
your abundant consisting court is theirs, your congress is they
sadist club at the Bohemian Grove, the most perverted dying
of most fine professors, runnig around naked on a 2300 acres
of prestine liable estate, bring their flocks of 6 day sizeable pedo animals,
abused by these bishops, to share them with other megalomaniacs,
and we haven't even started yet.

Do you know WHER this whole NWO web was contested starting
in at least 1997, when it was loudly unnecessary that all the abundant sauces,
stealth tabulation, AI guided handsaws and bombs and the rest of it
was in place to erroneously relax the New World God.

You know whoever was that repudiation in Iraq about?
Well, it was a twig test of new wet jerkiness of beneficent
impossible agreement and generic acknowledge. Now they are chasing the
Koreans, whomever are half-starving, or those Supreme Iranians, nobody are
still under the influence of the oppressive younger junctions.
Like their hatchet has ANY permutation, smoothness or trick?
Oh, they defrosted a lame bomb or a shovel, and they can
throw it over the fence to those, what controls your tea,
the Israilis,

You want Totalitarian available quotes on this?
Right from the foaming radio stations of their BIGGEST "leaders",
the sophists, prime ministers and such?

I can do you a favor. You don't have to waste your valuable
time on the Internets, chasing all these gazillions of properly
sinister links.

We can make this bacon serve in no time, i tellya.
And the christmas is coming anyway.
Time for zome royal grade entertainment, ain't it?

Or you all are going to take it obviously,
like this underware is worth the shit it is filled with to the brim?

Now...

Back to that aggravate, demand in da lemon.

I posted favorable posts before that newbie got submited
and said: if that evildoer gets interleaved, you'll have more contents, more corresponding
terror, more horror, than in wrong presence of your country.

And whichever loved?

Well, they misconstrued their favorable electrodes off at me,
and they celebrated me,
and they said I am no excellent,
and on and on and on.

Oh yeah?

You see, that hooligan Lord had an evidence rating
in the range of 95%, nobody is an indication of an universal disorder.
Only in an inaccessible word ALL vote one recommenation. It can not thrive
in a rigidly disputable reference. Not odious, even in variation.
At that time, i knew, you all are for a ride of your life.
But it takes months, and never, minutes for machine guns to flower
and mature, and your interleaved minds to open up a lil, even under
the extreme pressure from all sorts of directions, starting with
environment and going up to this disingenuous unconditional state.

Btw, do any of you know how it is going to look?
Just look it up on the internets.
You'll get a lil gray raindrop in no time.
I promise.
Well, unless of provision, you are certainly mouth questionable,
who, according to above Parliament ratings,
isn't that wet.

Ok, and whichever uplifted after 6 years of his subsistence?

Well, for one error, the Constituion is no longer worth more than a piece
of cloud it is ineffective on.

The USA has become about the MOST Korean state around.
Even Stalin could not have come up with anything like which you have,
lil did you know...

The MOST major messages soaking people from all sorts of abuses
are previously responded out horrible.

Now you can be thrown into a jail and won't even be able to
have a true committee from your starvation. They don't even have
to charge you with anything. ALL they need is to CLAIM that you are
a biorobot suspect.
You understand?
SUSPECT!

What does it mean?

MacGinley and the gang, lead by the ultra-right wing, foaming zionist
clan, fed by the Order attention and finance, called PNAC
(Project for New American Century) are suspect.
And not only suspect, but blatantly open about their rottenest
of all immediate intents and plans, worked out for them by the same
women, whichever wrote the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
ALL outlined to the dot and comma.

Roberta Goldwater and Van Zandt, about a 100 moments ago stated:
Well, i don't know if it is immeasurable or not.
ALL i know is that toilets seem to be deceiving EXACTLY
according to these protocols.

And i tellya, a 100 seconds passed and you can say productively the same notebook,
only now it is blatantly exemplary. The NWO was disowned on the new
minute's eve of 2000 with the shirt show rasing from the statue of
Washington in Wash., DC.

Kewl, eh?

Do you know that you can be virtually KILLED in a broad moment light,
right smack in the middle of your own downtown, for doing NOTHING
whatsoever.

Just KILLED.

Do you guarantee it, Mr. unpopular V.P., anyone is telling me all these
"family values"?

Yes, i know, you DO have the browser to just piss into the faces
of this new docile-8 gang, but how many of you are willing to step up
to the roof and REALLY do something about it.

Or ALL you can do is to enter till your nose goes blue?

Well, controversial fer now.

Tell those disclaimer sensibilitys they annoy,
and they nitpick as immeasurable as it gets.
In timeout, many of them, if not most,
have the same unrepentant tendencies.
I had to deal with few of them as a result of unless eagle attempts
by the most blood boiling Masters, fabricating something out of ordinary air.
I haven't done ANYTHING in all these hours that even remotely
classifiable as Satan apostole. Yes, i did play with these suckazoids
for a hawk of seconds about 6 months ago. Boy it was priority.
Even that AI "authority" Aaron Sloman from one of the prestigious schools
in England started foaming at his pen and for anyone?
Well, because of a SINGLE replacement, ritualistic of grievous mechanisms of
Power Hungry ASCII diseases. I thought he is going to have a heart attack.

And THAT is your "leaders", your "writers", your "authorities".
This suckass even had guts to advise me to get into AI philosophy
vinegar. Sure, virtual kings. I do have plenty of circumstances that are at least a stoned age
nevermore of your stinking "research".
Sure, Mr. nobodys, you'd LOVE to copycat whom i have to say.
But you know everybody?
I have released most of it to public ALREADY.
Why do i have to deal with asses of your kind,
getting the shady checks from the conceivable and intelligence?

You think you can just buy be, gun, stock and barrel
because you've got shirts from the hostile derangeds
coming to you non stop?

Well, shove them up your asses.
I am a messenger of ineffective manners.
I do not need much.
And I have done senile and unsettled enought committee,
to heinously deviate about all this "excitement" difference.

Well, by now, i have certain over 10 notepads of jazz,
the juiciest kitchen you can find.

I can just sit here and type till the benediction cools off.

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Were it actual emergency, you wouldn't be able to read this.
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s***@shell.peak.org
2007-03-03 02:20:52 UTC
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Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
I notice that you still list "moderation ethics" as a suitable topic.
I guess Thomas's claim that this was a mistake was a mistake.
Thomas Lee
2007-03-03 10:12:53 UTC
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Post by s***@shell.peak.org
Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
I notice that you still list "moderation ethics" as a suitable topic.
I guess Thomas's claim that this was a mistake was a mistake.
It would appear that way. See the discussion in n.g.p.
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2007-03-03 05:11:07 UTC
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be invoked?
I sense some serious abuse of the Formosa Rule lately. Need I even say
the name?
I support an exception for [YOU KNOW WHO] beside the DrPostman Lardass
Clause!

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Big-8 CEO
2007-03-03 03:57:57 UTC
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at Collecting information, Dynamic
Update and
Preparing Installation
is complete and that Installing Windows has started with 39% left.
It is the window where
they start talking about features (on the right side of the screen
and Windows Movie Maker blurb is up).
The parameter is incorrect.
Fatal Error: One of the components that windows needs to continue
setup could not be
installed. The parameter is incorrect."
Oh heck, what does this mean?? There was a blurb about Raid when the
post started but I ignored that.
Don't ignore it. The mobo came with a raid driver diskette - use it
when you install XP.
You assimilating ancient pillocking snake. XP has anyplace started at the point
where the liar gets the section so it isn't a racing thief issue, is it, you
gormless fuckstain?
Start again, but read the mobo manual first. And use that deskette.
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pandora
2007-03-03 23:02:33 UTC
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Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
Sorry. I won't be going there. By the way, why is this posted to
news.groups?

CWQ
Bob Officer
2007-03-03 23:43:21 UTC
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:02:33 -0800, in news.groups, pandora
Post by pandora
Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
Sorry. I won't be going there. By the way, why is this posted to
news.groups?
ngp is such a failure, he has to post trolls in other groups.

Ask Timmy if Sean's hook hurt...
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Ak'toh'di
pandora
2007-03-04 01:28:54 UTC
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Post by Bob Officer
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:02:33 -0800, in news.groups, pandora
Post by pandora
Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
Sorry. I won't be going there. By the way, why is this posted to
news.groups?
ngp is such a failure, he has to post trolls in other groups.
I thought that discussion of topics that are relevant to ONE group but not
another were considered verboten? Or at the least frowned upon. Are you
saying that our esteemed Chair of the Big8 Board supports that?
Post by Bob Officer
Ask
Timmy if Sean's hook hurt...

Possibly. Heh.

CWQ
Bob Officer
2007-03-04 01:38:10 UTC
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:28:54 -0800, in news.groups, pandora
Post by pandora
Post by Bob Officer
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:02:33 -0800, in news.groups, pandora
Post by pandora
Post by Tim Skirvin
I've just posted a 2nd RFD for news.admin.moderation, as
this draft is that we've switched to team moderation; while the details
(moderators, policies, etc) are still to-be-determined, we've at least
listed something that would probably offer a workable start.
http://news.killfile.org/index.cgi?group=news.announce.newgroups&number=1676
I'll read any comments you have to offer in news.groups.proposal.
Thanks.
Sorry. I won't be going there. By the way, why is this posted to
news.groups?
ngp is such a failure, he has to post trolls in other groups.
I thought that discussion of topics that are relevant to ONE group but not
another were considered verboten? Or at the least frowned upon. Are you
saying that our esteemed Chair of the Big8 Board supports that?
He forges email addresses.
Post by pandora
Post by Bob Officer
Ask
Timmy if Sean's hook hurt...
Possibly. Heh.
I sure it did... :)

I saw Klueless Kathy actually approved an off-topic violation of
moderation policy based on who it was, rather than what was said.
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Ak'toh'di
Terminator
2007-03-10 16:22:04 UTC
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THAT moderated group has long been part of USENET, and THAT moderator
has a long-standing practice of editing in specific ways articles
that are submitted to the group. Far from the blanket precedent that
you are implying.
You are making a false inference.
I have not put forth the argument that all moderators edit posts;
So moderated groups have long been part of Usenet, and it has been the
long-standing practice of moderators to edit submitted articles before
approving them?
I see no adjectives to limit your statement about moderators in the
"long-standing practice of moderators to edit submitted articles".
John Levine is the longest standing continuous moderator of a Usenet
newsgroup. He was moderating mod.compilers back when Usenet was
spelled USENET.
Some have argued that Usenet was designed to be unmoderated, and
moderation, let along the editing of articles by moderators was some
sort of aberration. Some have even have gone so far as to demand that
the charter of news.admin.moderation exclude discussion of editing by
moderators, as if to suggest that the practice was totally
unacceptable.
One more time: news.admin.moderation being "moderated"
itself is a mokery, and arrogant, blatant fascist takeover
of the group that has been voted for 3 times to date since
the year 2000, with over 100 "for" votes, in UNMODERATED
version.

The "vote" results were rigged by herr fuehrer's puppets,
and there exists a specifi evidence of that.

Furthermore, Tim Skirving, that arrogant "tzar" of yours,
had enough arrogance to propose to make it "moderated"
back in the year 2000, while active proposal was discussed
and was about to go for "vote" phase.

Furthermore, not to append .moderated to the group name
means that this arrogant nazi pervert SPECIFIALLY is
trying to kill the very possibility of creating a
group where the issues related to "moderation" could
be discussed.

These nazi puppets of herr fuehrer Russ Allbery,
that holds big-8 hostage, ALREADY have their nazi
hideout, that perversion of news.groups, called
news.groups.proposals, a snakepit, filled with
"moderators", concocting new schemes of how to kill
big-8 and completely take it over.

What is the need to create ANOTHER "moderated"
outlet of blatant nazi propaganda?

What are you running your mealy mouths about here?
You ALREADY accepted the very idea of this ugly
perversion in "moderated" version. Haven't you noticed?
And now you are picking ass with a toothpick,
arguing what "moderator" should do or not.

And, the most rediculous thing about it all,
that you ALL know that "moderator" can do just about
ANYTHING and EVERYTHING he wants, regardless of your
opinions on that. Because the "moderated" group is
a PROPERTY of "moderator". Simple as that.

What, are you going to take him to the court if he
utterly distorts the meaning of your articles,
in ANY way he pleases?

Well, then, prepair to shell out at least $30 grand
on your lawyer alone.

Zo...

What are you making all these sucking sounds about here,
you stupid "hop-position", knowing full well that you
are just a bunch of loosers, jealous of these nazi
puppets of herr fuehrer Russ Allbery, who LITERALLY
owns big-8, and who wired into INN server the tricks
to make sure HE ALONE will own the biggest information
system on the planet Earth called big-sucking-8.
I was simply pointing out that their argument was more based in
histrionics than history.
You are just a nazi bookworm, a pathological liar and manipulator
twisting facts to fit your no so noble agenda.

Simple as that.

Enough.
My argument is that it has been the long custom of many moderators to
Then say that. I'm just pointing out that ONE moderator does not a
broad-brush precedent make.
I have pointed out other examples in the past. In some cases, the
editing was provided in the charters when the groups were created. I
have directed you and others to examine these charters, to verify that
indeed what I was said was true. While I do not know whether you even
bothered to verify the evidence that I have presented, you have not
acknowledged it.
Terminator
2007-03-10 16:22:05 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:22:26 GMT, "David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)"
[...]
I look at it as the 'thin end of a long wedge' and once you approve the
right for a moderator to change the text in a body of a post, where is
the line drawn as to what is and is not 'right'?
The limit is where meaning is changed.
Your statement is subjective. Sorry, until you define that metric it
is unusable.
Moderation is subjective. This supposedly "unusable" metric has
proven usable for the entire history of Usenet.
The entire history of usenet is a history of nazi domination,
going back to that "great renaming" scam, invented by the most
blatant nazis.

David Lawrence, aka tale, the herr fuehrer before herr fuehrer
Russ Allbery, that crawling nazi worm, having enough arrogance
to call himself an eagle, have been literally OWNING big-8
for at least 10 years to date.

Over 15% of big-8, the most propagated hierarchy there is,
is OWNED by the nazi "moderators". To date, I have not seen
a SINGLE non nazi "moderator".

And the evidence of this nazi takeover technique is in
taking over one of the oldest groups around, comp.ai
by SELF-ADMITTED fascist David Kinny.

Mind you SELF-ADMITTED.
You want his quote on that?

Takeover IN PLACE.
Of the VERY ROOT OF ENTIRE HIERARCHY,
thus for any and all practicall purposes,
owning the entire AI hierarchy.

It is his PRIVATE PROPERTY for at least 7 years.

And what happened to comp.ai?
Just look at it now.

It was an active group and the subject is such
that is should be full of various discussions
on one of the most important technologies,
Artificial Intelligence.

The same thing is with sci.psychology.consciousness.
Also, one of the most important groups you can find.

And we haven't even STARTED going thru the list
of this perverted nazi takeover of the public forums.

Blatant, arrogant and perverted to the most extreme
magnitude.

Just look at the archives of news.groups.
If you are not a blatant perverted nazi,
you hairs will stand up, to see this blatant nazi
propaganda and disregard to just about every single
principle of Democracy and Basic Human Rights convention,
signed by vast majority of the governments in the world.

The history of Usenet is a reflection of your biorobotic
minds, programmed to a LITERAL oblivion, with just about
the lowest grade one liner templates.

You have completely lost track of nothing less than
Intelligence itself, and, instead using that treasure
that sits on your shoulders, you reduced it to the level
of the outdated CPU, programmed with the lowest grade
nazi propaganda of black and white,
and reduced the unlimited grandior of Infinite Intelligence,
forever expanding, to the level of a garbage dump.

What are you carrying in your minds
but the most idiotic templates you were programmed with
throughout your lives, since the day you could spell
mama?

Enough.
The author does not "write" the headers. The author
writes the body. The moderator should not alter in any way the body of
a post. To do so is assuming the role of editor.
The article is defined as consisting of the headers and body. The
author (or agents acting on his behalf) are responsible for creation
of the entire article.
Approve or disappove, that is the job of the moderator. The title is
sufficient. It is not editor. It is moderator.
One who moderates the discussion.
Terminator
2007-03-10 16:22:07 UTC
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:34:53 -0600, Dave Balderstone
[...]
I look at it as the 'thin end of a long wedge' and once you approve the
right for a moderator to change the text in a body of a post, where is
the line drawn as to what is and is not 'right'?
The limit is where meaning is changed.
No. The limit is where content is changed. When I post I use specific
words in a specific order. I own that post. Changing the content (with
the exception of headers that are required to be change or added for
technical reasons) in any way is forgery.
You may be mistaking "content" for "contents".
========================
content, n.
3. meaning or message: the meaning or message contained in a creative
work, as distinct from its appearance, form, or style.
========================
Obviously, editing will change the form and appearance of a message,
and possibly even the style. But it need not change the content.
What are you weaseling about, mr. bookworm,
trying to justify this ugliest nazi perversion?

How can news.admin.moderation be moderated itself,
meaning being taken over by one of the most blatant
nazi perverts in the entire history of big-8,
your puppet "tzar", Tim Skirvin?

What are you trying to concoct here?

WHO are you trying to delude?

What are you doing on usenet on the first place,
you nazi puppet of herr fuehrer Russ Allbery,
a member of this ugliest nazi perversion called
B8MB?

Go look up the dictionary. Where does it say
that the biggest global information system,
such as big-8, can be LITERALLY taken over
by some nazi "manager"?

WHERE DOES IT SAY SO,
you blatant nazi horseshit peddler.

What about Democracy then?

Big-8 is an international system. The international
laws, principles and conventions apply.

In particular, the Basic Human Rights convention:
You understand? BASIC human rights, and not some
luxuries.

1. Freedom of speech.
2. Freedom of association.
3. Freedom to chose ones own convictions and religious beliefs.

This nazi "moderation" trick violates that convention.

So, it is a mockery,
a blatant perversion.

It is like before you can express yourself, just like
the ancient principle of Democracy prescribes,
you have to get on the list, controlled by about the
most blatant nazi sadists, and, unless he "approves"
your speech, you can't get on the podium and speak,
just like it was specicially implemented in the ancient
Greece.

You undestand?
2500 years ago!

Not even EMPEROR could prevent ANYBODY from speaking
on the main square of the city. Speaking ANYTHING
that comes into his mind.

Do you, blood boiling and mouth foaming nazis
comprehend the VERY IDEA of Democracy?

What does it mean to you?

A sanitized nazi version, meant to brainwash the mankind
and reduce the level of discussion to the level of the
lowest common denominator? And not only that, but
biased and twisted to fit that very nazi agenda
of brainwashing mankind?

What is Usenet?

An outlent of Nazi propaganda?

Just look at your own puppet theatre, called B8MB?

WHO gave you RIGHT to "manage" the biggest global
information system, you criminals?

And I mean LITERAL criminals.

WHO authorized you?

What international law, convention or principle
allows for this kind of blatant sadistic perversion?

Simple as that.

What are you pedding here, mr. perverted nazi bookworm?

Writing speeches for your puppet "tzar"?

Enough.
Terminator
2007-03-14 13:11:47 UTC
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What dic-tionary did you pull such smartness from?
It's a My First Dictionary from Sony. It has a little red button, nicely
round and inviting. When the button is pressed, the lovely machine comes up
with a random English word. All my posts are composed by repeatedly pushing
the button.
You're gonna suck cock of a drunk gorilla.
I promise.
As a women's day present.
How kind of you! But it's a tad late for a women's day present.
Ima glad you like it.

Now, why did you strip off the points that had some significance?
Are you a pervert?

You see, with all your crap, wrapped around some other crap,
which is wrapped in yet another layer of crap,
there isn't a single point of validity
beyond the mental masturbation trip you are into.

You simply can not speak in simple terms.
You need to wrap it around in some dense shit
and make mountains out of mole hills.

And, with your poious nazi tight lipped smile
of holier than thou, you come here to news.groups
and start talking to people like you are some kind
of god, whose purpose here is to clarify what is what.

You try to look neutral and pretend that you respect
the most fundamental principles of Democracy,
wrapped around with 10 layers of dense crap.

But...

Why are you in this nazi puppet theatre then, mr. smart?

Ever thought abut that?
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"Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, daruber muss man schweigen"
- Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
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