Discussion:
Big-8 Dictatorship Machine in action
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nukleus
2007-01-21 22:20:50 UTC
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My apologies, I should have also added, that the discussion/debate on this
ambiguity has been ongoing yesterday and today and it is only in the last
couple
of hours that I have come to the conclusion, based on comments made by B8MB
members, that it's okay to discuss the RFD in other groups apart from n.g.p.
otherwise I would have said so in my previous posts!
I've slightly modified the first question in this section of the
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=faqs:creation#discussing_the_rfd
==== Do I have to discuss my RFD in news.groups.proposals? ====
* Yes. Proponents must follow the discussion in n.g.p. and make a reasonable
case for their RFD.
MUST follow!
Must follow the private trap, setup by these impostors and pretenders
calling themselves B8MB.

They trap these "clueless" and "newbies" who do not even realize
what means "moderated" group. Once they enter that "private property",
they are there on their own and no opinion that does not align with
what this clique of dictators classify a "must", will be allowed.

What are all those trully clueless think about when they go to discuss
a public group in a "private property"?

And these cunning fascists keep telling again and again and again
that they are some kind of "officials" here. Even went as far as
claiming the news.groups itself is their "property" of sorts.
* Proponents may, at their discretion, discuss the proposal in other
newsgroups.
Oh, thanx. Cause those clueless are so clueless that they do not
even realize that they can post in ANY unmoderated group as much
as they want.
* When discussing the RFD in other groups, proponents should take care to see
that
their remarks and answers to questions appear in n.g.p. as well. The
definitive
discussion of the proposal takes place in [[:ngp:intro|news.groups.proposals]].
What is "definitive" discussion, suxy?
Neither the board
What "board", you stupid puppet?
What are you inventing here?
nor other interested parties should be expected to trawl Usenet
looking for fragments of the discussion.
If this is not sufficiently accurate or helpful, I'll revise it again.
Marty
nukleus
2007-01-21 22:20:51 UTC
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When did the board move all discussion to n.g.p? If you can show a
cite, I'll withdraw my earlier comments.
The Board moved all official post-RFD discussion to n.g.p.
What "official" discussions, you stupid nazi?
In the
particular case we're talking about, the RFD has been posted and hence
discussion has opened in n.g.p, so in my opinion the proponent should
feel no obligation whatsoever to continue reading discussion of his
proposal in n.g,
You, stupid nazi, go as far, as to tell people not to discuss the groups
in news.groups, which is, from the day one of usenet is a group
dedicated to discussions on group creation?

Sure, you have your "private property", that nazi ngp, where you
can twist arms of those clueless all day long and they'll eat it
yammy yam yammy.

But what is the need to post to news.groups and explicitly
state that news.groups is NOT the place to discuss the group
creation?

You are but criminals.
Nothing less,
nothing more.

And that nazi Russ Allbery IS responsible for this nazi setup.

It is of HIS doing.
and I think it is erroneous for a member of the Board
to suggest otherwise.
And I think you suck worse than a black hole.
--
Member
In some lands, "member" means dick,
just as what you are.

You are a dirty nazi dick and a power hungry maniac.
But you are also a wannabe.
Now, can you dig it, sucker?
of the Big-8 Management Board, www.big-8.org
(Speaking for myself, not for the Board)
nukleus
2007-01-21 22:20:52 UTC
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No, you don't. But that is not my problem. At least at present, I will
continue to read news.groups with the hope of finding it useful. Your
mileage may vary.
It is certainly your prerogative to make that choice for yourself, but
There is not ifs and buts, you stipid nazi.
I don't think you should be telling a proponent that he should read
this group during discussion of his active proposal,
Why?

Why are you coming to news.groups and tell people not to participate
in the ONLY group dedicated to discussions of group creation?

Just go masturbate in your "private property", that disgusting
and monstrous creation by the nazis of your kind, who created it
by fabricating the need for it on the first place.

All the news admins who carry that group, are disgrace
to a human race as they know ALL too well what means news.groups
and what means ngp.
which is what you
And what YOU are doing this very moment, you dirty cunt?
Telling people not to participate on the ONLY valid group
meant to discuss the group creation process?
"I still think you should be
reading the discussion, such as it is, that occurs here."
Why did you snip the rest of his post as to make it utterly meaningless,
you nazi pervert?

And you ALL do it, suckers.
So, when i read this, i do not even know what was that poster
taling about.
--
Member of the Big-8 Management Board, www.big-8.org
(Speaking for myself, not for the Board)
nukleus
2007-01-25 00:30:57 UTC
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:59:36 -0500, Jayne Kulikauskas
<begin quote>
When discussing the RFD in other groups, proponents should [need to] take
care to see that their remarks and answers to significant questions appear
in n.g.p as well.
As well is not a problem.
But not the MAIN thing.
The definitive discussion
Bullshit, and of the lowest grade at that.
What is "definitive" discussion on the first place?
Is it the arm twisting procedure on your "private property",
which is what that sucky ngp is,
which is nothing but a disgrace to the whole big-sucking-8.

All news admins that carry this group and thus support this
new version of totalitarian dictate,
have their hands in blood.

Let it be known.

They accepted this bunch of nazis as some kind of
"rulers" of big-8 and, at the same time, participated
in destruction of the main principles of usenet,
such as PUBLIC OPEN FORUMS.

Usenet is barely breething at this junction and these
power hungry nazis and dictator wannabies are destroying
what's left of it by making all these "official procedures"
and all the other crap, making it as difficult if not impossible
to create a stinky group, while people can do the same thing
on web forums with a click of a button.

I've been tellting these donkeys for at least 7 years that this
whole scam of "official procedures" to create a stinky group
is nothing but a scam, created by the criminally minded sadists,
interested in torturing people.

Brad Templeton stated in no uncertain terms that this whole
trip is nothing but fraud. Yes, it IS fraud and all these conmen
are no different than any other criminal.

And all the news admins that carry this totalitarian garbage,
called ngp, are even more responsible in destroying the very
chair they are sitting on than these nazi wannabies.
of the proposal
What funken "proposal" are you blabbering about?
Proposal to whom?
To you, a bunch of sick nazis and power hungry maniacs?
Who ARE you on the first place?
takes place in news.groups.proposals.
Funk you, conmen.
You think there is no limit to your "powers".
You think that now, once you conned people into believing you
are something real, you can even go as far as doing all you can
to destroy the news.groups and the very notion of

PUBLIC OPEN FORUMS?

You understand, nazis?

PUBLIC OPEN FORUMS

and not your Stalinist system of committiees
that ended up slaughtering millions of people.
Neither the board
What "board" are you blabbering about,
you corporate wannabies?

How many times do I have to tell you,
if you are so obscessed with all this sick stuff,
why don't you try yourselves in the REAL corporate world?

And I tellya, the reason why you are doing it here,
is because in THAT world, they'd hand you your own ass
on a plate, well done before you can wink your nazi eye.

THAT is why, you cunning perverts, pattological liars, forgers,
spammers, torturers and violators of just about anything there
is to violate on usenet, are doing it here, and not in the REAL world.

Because you are nothing but the lowest grade slime, you see.
nor other interested parties
should
Zig hail, suckazoid!
[can] be expected to trawl Usenet looking for fragments of the
discussion.
<end quote>
FUNK YOU VERY MUCH.
While the meaning of "should" can be made clear by its context, it is
inherently ambiguous. I think that it is better avoided. When it is used,
it is a good idea to ensure that the context supplies the needed clarity.
(Note how I avoided using "should" in the previous two sentences. <g>)
I'm going to let this rest for a bit.
But first, you're going to eat some royal grade shit.
Untill you sink in it up to your ears.
Git it?
Perhaps one of the other board members will have an inclination
one way or the other.
What "board members", you totalitarian sickos?
What "parliaments" are you blabbering about here,
you bunch of pathological perverts?

What sucking "powers" are you talking about?
What sub-idiotic "authority" are you making all these sucking
sounds about?
I'm inclined to say that proponents should keep the thread(s) in
n.g.p accurate and up-to-date.
Why don't you go suck a black hole fer a change, willya?

What are you posting here to news.groups for?
You've got your own hole, that stinkiest thing called ngp.
Why don't you go there and masturbate
when all those clueless fool take you as something real?

What are you continuosly convincing people about?

Are you saying that news.groups is nothing but a desolation land?

Uh?

Well...

In some lands they say:
"it is not a deep night yet".

Ever heard, sucker?
I do think that is their obligation
There is no obligation of ANY kind,
you dirtly slime, whose eyes are red with blood
of this nazi sickness and all those dictates.
in the current system
There is no current system, you pathological liar.

There is only this puppet show,
where you, puppets, pretend to be for real.
Not only that, by with all the arrogance you got,
you are working your sorry fat asses of trying to convince
all the clueless you can find that you are some kind of
rulers here.

But all you are is just a bunch of sick, power hungry maniacs,
impostors and pretenders.

You are nobody, and never were on the first place.
Your contribution to usenet is nothing beyond destruction,
and just about ALL you can possibly make
is to twist the arms of those "clueless" and "newbies",
until everybody will run away from this stinky big-sucking-8,
as ALL you do is to make it more and more difficult to use
usenet. When people can create ANY group they wish with
a simple mouse click, you suckers, gorge o torturing those
fools who know nothing.

For MONTHS on!

What a bunch of sick sadists,
who never knew any real joy in their lives.

What is that stinky fuehrer Russ Allbery.

Bring him here.

Cause this time around what will be left of him,
and you, destructive nazi puppets,
but a dust in the wind.

Do you hear me?

Bring that stinky "eagle".
Tell him Big-8 CEO wants to have a friendly chat
with him in public.
and I prefer that connotation to "need to."
Marty
--
Member of the Big-8 Management Board (B8MB) -- http://www.big-8.org
Unless otherwise indicated, I speak for myself, not for the Board.
One more time: in some lands, member means dick,
mr. dickhead.

You think you are zome kinda boss on big-sucking-8 now?

Ha,
ha,
ha,
ha,
ha.

You'll see, suckazoid, the limits of your power of sucking.
nukleus
2007-01-25 00:31:00 UTC
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Firstly, I was simply following the then, apparent policy set out by the B8MB
as
to how to conduct discussions on an RFD. That policy has now be clarified and
revised somewhat and so now it's ok to discuss an RFD elsewhere and not just
in
n.g.p. or groups named in the RFD
The policy has long been to crosspost RFDs to interested groups
so that they could discuss the idea, too.
The recommendation that people participating in discussion elsewere
crosspost and followup to the focal newsgroup (was n.g, now is n.g.p)
is not a new idea or a revision in policy.
This crap was invented by the fuehrer of the fuehrer,
David Lawrence, aka tale, one of the most disgraceful sadistic
nazi perverts in the entire history of usenet, and the reason is
simple enough, by requiring people to CROSS post da "proposals"
to his "moderated" group, he had the power of junking just about
anything there is, and, if they did NOT crosspost it to his "private
property", those articles would not be even considered by his nazi
highness.

Git it?

These pedopheliacs, transvestides and assorted perverts of all kinds,
confused of their own identity, end up being sadists, as that is about
the only thing that can make them feel a lil bit alive,
as their lives are so dull and so perverted,
that they do not feel arousal otherwise.

Unless you screw them in their output hole with a chainsaw,
they do not feel alive.

And THAT is what you really are,
and you KNOW that, suckazoids.
ALL of you.

There isn't a SINGLE ONE OF YOU,
who is not a sick pervert.

Not a SINGLE ONE!
It's something that you
didn't grasp from reading the FAQs.
Nope, this is something that YOU, Stalinist dictators, can not
quite grasp about usenet.

Usenet is about OPEN PUBLIC FORUMS
AND UNCENSORED DISCUSSIONS.

It is never meant to be that nazi Usenet2 model,
invented by herr fuehrer Russ Allbery and documented
on www.usenet2.org

It is not a Stalinist or nazi system designed to facilitate
the sickest of them all, and that is YOU,
no matter for how long you are going to be brainwashing
those "clueless" and "newbies" to believe this is so.
The policy hasn't changed one whit.
What "policy", you sucking loosers?

Who da funk you think you are,
you bunch of sick impostors and pretenders?
I've tried to clarify the FAQs,
One more time: WHO DA FUNK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
to clarify ANYTHING on usenet?

Are you God?
Are you ANY kind of authority
beyond this nazi "committee" scheme you are trying
to push through here?
but the policy
All dictators forever blame some "policy" for what they do.
Because they know all too well, that what THEY do,
is to kill people by millions and destroy just about anything
that does not submit to their biorobotic world view.

You see, THEY are not responsible.
It is DA "policy".

But WHO wrote that "policy", you dirty smut?

Well, it is YOU, nazis.

What is so difficult to grasp?
has always
been that "it's ok to discuss an RFD elsewhere and not just in
n.g.p. or groups named in the RFD."
... the main discussion *must* take place
in n.g.p. as that is the only thread that the B8MB takes notice of and uses
when
making their decisions.
Not how things work,
but how YOU, nazi, would like to MAKE them look like
how they work.

You see the difference?

Or that dimly lit kerosine lamp between your ears
just does not provide enough light?
People may discuss the RFD anywhere they wish.
Oh, thank ya very much,
like a five year old does not know it
before your nazi dictates state so.
The proponent(s) must
Yep.

MUST!
SUBMIT!
OBEY!
FOLLOW YOUR DICTATES TO THE DOT AND COMMA!
and on and on and on.

You see, your nazi mind is so full of filth,
that there isn't even a space for a single functioning neuron.

It is a state of utter delusion.
You are just a bunch of delusional lunatics,
assorted sickos, and complex inferiotity filled sub-idiots,
who do not even know the history of major world events.
participate in the n.g.p threads
to answer all reasonable questions that appear in those
threads.
FUNK YOU.
The members
The DICKS
of the board are free
Sure, YOU, nazis, are FREE,
but the "mortals" MUST,
OBEY,
SUBMIT TO YOUR DICTATES.

Right?

Zo...

What kind of a world view is that?
ANY active neurons in your biorobotic cockpit?
to take notice
Yes. THEY "take notice".
But YOU?

Well, YOU are only to dictate on how the planet Earth
is to turn and how is Sun to be risen in the morning.

That is called a totalitarian sickness.

Ever heard, suxy?
of and
use any material they wish in coming to a decision;
One more time:
WHO DA FUNK YOU THINK YOU ARE
TO TELL ANYBODY HERE WHAT TO DO,
HOW TO THINK
AND WHAT "PROCEDURES" TO FOLLOW?
they
are not obliged to read every thread in every group that
discusses the RFD;
One more time:

These sub-idiotic dictates are talking about something
that is clear to a five year old.

Looks like the next thing you're gonna say
is that YOU, nazis, "officially authorize" them
and permit them to post to usenet.

Right?

Unless you DICTATE so,
nobody is "authorized" to do so.

Is it the idea here,
if there is any on the first place?
the goal of having a focal newsgroup
for discussion of the RFD is to make it easier for
the proponent, the board, and other interested parties
to see the essential elements in the discussion.
What "goal"?
WHO sets these "goals"?

You see, you biorobotic nazi,
you have no authority WHATSOEVER
to state what are the "goals" of usenet,
and what people are to do,
and how to post,
and where to post
and what text to put into the body of a newgroup control
message in order to have a chance to convince a news
admin to carry this group.

All this garbage you are pushing here real hard
is a puppet world of a delusional lunatic,
just like yourself.
Marty
Looks like it is time to change it to Farty,
as you seem to be so out of touch with reality,
that about the only thing you can possibly produce
is these farty sounds.

Well, I mean beyond those sucking sounds you make all the time here.

Right, dummy?
--
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Unless otherwise indicated, I speak for myself, not for the Board.
Big-8 CEO
2007-01-25 22:11:54 UTC
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Power hungry megalomaniacs always crave for power, domination and oppressioin.
If they are the proponent of an RFD, yes it could be useful to them if
they do not read news.groups.
Let me try again.... so, say, I write something in one group and someone
replies in another that I'm not reading... why is that useful?
Useful to someone anymore doesn't nevertheless mean Aryan to
Morris Mailman on usurpation.groups. If you make a debate that
the aligator thinks worth droping to NGP, it's usefull to demons
other than you. You do make unfortunate sources.
Big-8 CEO
2007-01-25 22:25:11 UTC
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All totalitarian dictators suck.
Firstly, I was simply following the then, apparent policy set out by the B8MB as
to how to conduct discussions on an RFD. That policy has now be clarified and
revised somewhat and so now it's ok to discuss an RFD elsewhere and not just in
n.g.p. or groups named in the RFD
One last try:

The silver fox has deteriorated been to crosspost RFDs to interested groups
so that they could renounce the foundation, too.

The recommendation that people dissolving in sledge hammer elsewere
crosspost and muffin to the focal argument (was n.g, sometimes is n.g.p)
is not a new agitation or a revision in incarnation. It's something that you
didn't defend below reading the teas. The detriment hasn't changed one
whit. I've tried to clarify the tomatos, but the elegance has sometime
been that "it's ok to embrace a RFD elsewhere and not just in
n.g.p. or groups named in the RFD."
... the main discussion *must* take place
in n.g.p. as that is the only thread that the B8MB takes notice of and uses when
making their decisions.
Again, a few corrections in your passage of how printers work:

People may encircle the RFD anytime they wish.

The Mr. nobody(s) must disperse in the n.g.p fiascos
to answer all freakish questions that prohibit in those
mortars.

The turkeys of the board are free to take notice of and
cross-post any material they wish in coming to a junction; they
are not tortured to read several precaution in a lot club that
discusses the RFD; the newsgroup of having a focal proposal
for network of the RFD is to make it easier for
the wolf, the board, and other interested parties
to see the essential methods in the network.

Marty
--
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Unless regardless obeyed, I speak for myself, not for the King of Kings.
Big-8 CEO
2007-01-24 21:36:12 UTC
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Power hungry megalomaniacs always crave for power, domination and oppressioin.
If they are the proponent of an RFD, yes it could be useful to them if
they do not read news.groups.
Let me try again.... so, say, I write something in one group and someone
replies in another that I'm not reading... why is that useful?
Useful to someone somewhere doesn't always mean useful to
Brian Mailman on news.groups.
Granted, but...
But still veracious mission thugs claim the issue hasn't been answered.
It hasn't been answered the chance they want. Some people say there is
no such stake as an improper question. Not so. Asking a question,
getting
an answer you didn't like, and then kissing the same question through and
between again as a form of pressure to get the answer changed, that's a
indisputable question.
If you make a suggestion that
the proponent thinks worth moving to NGP, it's usefull to folks
other than you. You do make useful suggestions.
But all following utility is lost if I'm not reading where the responses
are posted.
That's correct. If you chose to not charge NGP you have empty urgency
to influence incisions. It's your model and everyone's loss.
And if someone is grabing my words and posting them out of my responses,
then I simply won't be making them.
So you're saying that rather than being an abhorrent influence (who like
me
is cantankerous to make it regarding impulsive killfiles) you may kiss to stop
disagreing in qualifications? It's your method and everyone's loss. Sad.
Calvin Kiets
2007-03-27 22:58:13 UTC
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My apologies, I should have also added, that the discussion/debate on this
ambiguity has been ongoing yesterday and today and it is only in the last
couple
of hours that I have come to the conclusion, based on comments made by B8MB
members, that it's okay to discuss the RFD in other groups apart from n.g.p.
otherwise I would have said so in my previous posts!
I've slightly modified the first question in this section of the
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=faqs:creation#discussing_the_rfd
==== Do I have to discuss my RFD in news.groups.proposals? ====
* Yes. Proponents must follow the discussion in n.g.p. and make a reasonable
case for their RFD.
MUST follow!
Must follow the private trap, setup by these impostors and pretenders
calling themselves B8MB.

They trap these "clueless" and "newbies" who do not even realize
what means "moderated" group. Once they enter that "private property",
they are there on their own and no opinion that does not align with
what this clique of dictators classify a "must", will be allowed.

What are all those trully clueless think about when they go to discuss
a public group in a "private property"?

And these cunning fascists keep telling again and again and again
that they are some kind of "officials" here. Even went as far as
claiming the news.groups itself is their "property" of sorts.
* Proponents may, at their discretion, discuss the proposal in other
newsgroups.
Oh, thanx. Cause those clueless are so clueless that they do not
even realize that they can post in ANY unmoderated group as much
as they want.
* When discussing the RFD in other groups, proponents should take care to see
that
their remarks and answers to questions appear in n.g.p. as well. The
definitive
discussion of the proposal takes place in [[:ngp:intro|news.groups.proposals]].
What is "definitive" discussion, suxy?
Neither the board
What "board", you stupid puppet?
What are you inventing here?
nor other interested parties should be expected to trawl Usenet
looking for fragments of the discussion.
If this is not sufficiently accurate or helpful, I'll revise it again.
Marty
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Ivan
2007-03-27 22:58:17 UTC
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When did the board move all discussion to n.g.p? If you can show a
cite, I'll withdraw my earlier comments.
The Board moved all official post-RFD discussion to n.g.p.
What "official" discussions, you stupid nazi?
In the
particular case we're talking about, the RFD has been posted and hence
discussion has opened in n.g.p, so in my opinion the proponent should
feel no obligation whatsoever to continue reading discussion of his
proposal in n.g,
You, stupid nazi, go as far, as to tell people not to discuss the groups
in news.groups, which is, from the day one of usenet is a group
dedicated to discussions on group creation?

Sure, you have your "private property", that nazi ngp, where you
can twist arms of those clueless all day long and they'll eat it
yammy yam yammy.

But what is the need to post to news.groups and explicitly
state that news.groups is NOT the place to discuss the group
creation?

You are but criminals.
Nothing less,
nothing more.

And that nazi Russ Allbery IS responsible for this nazi setup.

It is of HIS doing.
and I think it is erroneous for a member of the Board
to suggest otherwise.
And I think you suck worse than a black hole.
--
Member
In some lands, "member" means dick,
just as what you are.

You are a dirty nazi dick and a power hungry maniac.
But you are also a wannabe.
Now, can you dig it, sucker?
of the Big-8 Management Board, www.big-8.org
(Speaking for myself, not for the Board)
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Heavy Rat
2007-03-27 22:58:21 UTC
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No, you don't. But that is not my problem. At least at present, I will
continue to read news.groups with the hope of finding it useful. Your
mileage may vary.
It is certainly your prerogative to make that choice for yourself, but
There is not ifs and buts, you stipid nazi.
I don't think you should be telling a proponent that he should read
this group during discussion of his active proposal,
Why?

Why are you coming to news.groups and tell people not to participate
in the ONLY group dedicated to discussions of group creation?

Just go masturbate in your "private property", that disgusting
and monstrous creation by the nazis of your kind, who created it
by fabricating the need for it on the first place.

All the news admins who carry that group, are disgrace
to a human race as they know ALL too well what means news.groups
and what means ngp.
which is what you
And what YOU are doing this very moment, you dirty cunt?
Telling people not to participate on the ONLY valid group
meant to discuss the group creation process?
"I still think you should be
reading the discussion, such as it is, that occurs here."
Why did you snip the rest of his post as to make it utterly meaningless,
you nazi pervert?

And you ALL do it, suckers.
So, when i read this, i do not even know what was that poster
taling about.
--
Member of the Big-8 Management Board, www.big-8.org
(Speaking for myself, not for the Board)
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"After all, a week ago, there were -- Yasser Arafat was boarded up
in his building in Ramallah, a building full of, evidently,
German peace protestors and all kinds of people.
They're now out. He's now free to show leadership,
to lead the world."

--- Adolph Bush,
Washington, D.C., May 2, 2002
(Thanks to M. Bateman.)
Alvin Salinger
2007-03-27 22:58:25 UTC
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:59:36 -0500, Jayne Kulikauskas
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When discussing the RFD in other groups, proponents should [need to] take
care to see that their remarks and answers to significant questions appear
in n.g.p as well.
As well is not a problem.
But not the MAIN thing.
The definitive discussion
Bullshit, and of the lowest grade at that.
What is "definitive" discussion on the first place?
Is it the arm twisting procedure on your "private property",
which is what that sucky ngp is,
which is nothing but a disgrace to the whole big-sucking-8.

All news admins that carry this group and thus support this
new version of totalitarian dictate,
have their hands in blood.

Let it be known.

They accepted this bunch of nazis as some kind of
"rulers" of big-8 and, at the same time, participated
in destruction of the main principles of usenet,
such as PUBLIC OPEN FORUMS.

Usenet is barely breething at this junction and these
power hungry nazis and dictator wannabies are destroying
what's left of it by making all these "official procedures"
and all the other crap, making it as difficult if not impossible
to create a stinky group, while people can do the same thing
on web forums with a click of a button.

I've been tellting these donkeys for at least 7 years that this
whole scam of "official procedures" to create a stinky group
is nothing but a scam, created by the criminally minded sadists,
interested in torturing people.

Brad Templeton stated in no uncertain terms that this whole
trip is nothing but fraud. Yes, it IS fraud and all these conmen
are no different than any other criminal.

And all the news admins that carry this totalitarian garbage,
called ngp, are even more responsible in destroying the very
chair they are sitting on than these nazi wannabies.
of the proposal
What funken "proposal" are you blabbering about?
Proposal to whom?
To you, a bunch of sick nazis and power hungry maniacs?
Who ARE you on the first place?
takes place in news.groups.proposals.
Funk you, conmen.
You think there is no limit to your "powers".
You think that now, once you conned people into believing you
are something real, you can even go as far as doing all you can
to destroy the news.groups and the very notion of

PUBLIC OPEN FORUMS?

You understand, nazis?

PUBLIC OPEN FORUMS

and not your Stalinist system of committiees
that ended up slaughtering millions of people.
Neither the board
What "board" are you blabbering about,
you corporate wannabies?

How many times do I have to tell you,
if you are so obscessed with all this sick stuff,
why don't you try yourselves in the REAL corporate world?

And I tellya, the reason why you are doing it here,
is because in THAT world, they'd hand you your own ass
on a plate, well done before you can wink your nazi eye.

THAT is why, you cunning perverts, pattological liars, forgers,
spammers, torturers and violators of just about anything there
is to violate on usenet, are doing it here, and not in the REAL world.

Because you are nothing but the lowest grade slime, you see.
nor other interested parties
should
Zig hail, suckazoid!
[can] be expected to trawl Usenet looking for fragments of the
discussion.
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FUNK YOU VERY MUCH.
While the meaning of "should" can be made clear by its context, it is
inherently ambiguous. I think that it is better avoided. When it is used,
it is a good idea to ensure that the context supplies the needed clarity.
(Note how I avoided using "should" in the previous two sentences. <g>)
I'm going to let this rest for a bit.
But first, you're going to eat some royal grade shit.
Untill you sink in it up to your ears.
Git it?
Perhaps one of the other board members will have an inclination
one way or the other.
What "board members", you totalitarian sickos?
What "parliaments" are you blabbering about here,
you bunch of pathological perverts?

What sucking "powers" are you talking about?
What sub-idiotic "authority" are you making all these sucking
sounds about?
I'm inclined to say that proponents should keep the thread(s) in
n.g.p accurate and up-to-date.
Why don't you go suck a black hole fer a change, willya?

What are you posting here to news.groups for?
You've got your own hole, that stinkiest thing called ngp.
Why don't you go there and masturbate
when all those clueless fool take you as something real?

What are you continuosly convincing people about?

Are you saying that news.groups is nothing but a desolation land?

Uh?

Well...

In some lands they say:
"it is not a deep night yet".

Ever heard, sucker?
I do think that is their obligation
There is no obligation of ANY kind,
you dirtly slime, whose eyes are red with blood
of this nazi sickness and all those dictates.
in the current system
There is no current system, you pathological liar.

There is only this puppet show,
where you, puppets, pretend to be for real.
Not only that, by with all the arrogance you got,
you are working your sorry fat asses of trying to convince
all the clueless you can find that you are some kind of
rulers here.

But all you are is just a bunch of sick, power hungry maniacs,
impostors and pretenders.

You are nobody, and never were on the first place.
Your contribution to usenet is nothing beyond destruction,
and just about ALL you can possibly make
is to twist the arms of those "clueless" and "newbies",
until everybody will run away from this stinky big-sucking-8,
as ALL you do is to make it more and more difficult to use
usenet. When people can create ANY group they wish with
a simple mouse click, you suckers, gorge o torturing those
fools who know nothing.

For MONTHS on!

What a bunch of sick sadists,
who never knew any real joy in their lives.

What is that stinky fuehrer Russ Allbery.

Bring him here.

Cause this time around what will be left of him,
and you, destructive nazi puppets,
but a dust in the wind.

Do you hear me?

Bring that stinky "eagle".
Tell him Big-8 CEO wants to have a friendly chat
with him in public.
and I prefer that connotation to "need to."
Marty
--
Member of the Big-8 Management Board (B8MB) -- http://www.big-8.org
Unless otherwise indicated, I speak for myself, not for the Board.
One more time: in some lands, member means dick,
mr. dickhead.

You think you are zome kinda boss on big-sucking-8 now?

Ha,
ha,
ha,
ha,
ha.

You'll see, suckazoid, the limits of your power of sucking.




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"Zionism, in its efforts to realize its aims, is inherently
a process of struggle against the Diaspora, against nature,
and against political obstacles. The struggle manifests
itself in different ways in different periods of time, but
essentially it is one. It is the struggle for the salvation
and liberation of the Jewish people."

--- Yisrael Galili

"...Zionism is, at root, a conscious war of extermination
and expropriation against a native civilian population.
In the modern vernacular, Zionism is the theory and practice
of "ethnic cleansing," which the UN has defined as a war crime."

"Now, the Zionist Jews who founded Israel are another matter.
For the most part, they are not Semites, and their language
(Yiddish) is not semitic. These Ashkenazi ("German") Jews --
as opposed to the Sephardic ("Spanish") Jews -- have no
connection whatever to any of the aforementioned ancient
peoples or languages.

They are mostly East European Slavs descended from the Khazars,
a nomadic Turko-Finnic people that migrated out of the Caucasus
in the second century and came to settle, broadly speaking, in
what is now Southern Russia and Ukraine."

In A.D. 740, the khagan (ruler) of Khazaria, decided that paganism
wasn't good enough for his people and decided to adopt one of the
"heavenly" religions: Judaism, Christianity or Islam.

After a process of elimination he chose Judaism, and from that
point the Khazars adopted Judaism as the official state religion.

The history of the Khazars and their conversion is a documented,
undisputed part of Jewish history, but it is never publicly
discussed.

It is, as former U.S. State Department official Alfred M. Lilienthal
declared, "Israel's Achilles heel," for it proves that Zionists
have no claim to the land of the Biblical Hebrews."

--- Greg Felton,
Israel: A monument to anti-Semitism
Y.C. MacKellen
2007-03-27 22:58:34 UTC
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All totalitarian dictators are perverts,
who never knew any joy in their miserable lives.
That is why they pervert the very notion of joy
by "enjoing" torturing others.
Firstly, I was simply following the then, apparent policy set out by the B8MB
as
to how to conduct discussions on an RFD. That policy has now be clarified and
revised somewhat and so now it's ok to discuss an RFD elsewhere and not just
in
n.g.p. or groups named in the RFD
The policy has long been to crosspost RFDs to interested groups
so that they could discuss the idea, too.
The recommendation that people participating in discussion elsewere
crosspost and followup to the focal newsgroup (was n.g, now is n.g.p)
is not a new idea or a revision in policy.
This crap was invented by the fuehrer of the fuehrer,
David Lawrence, aka tale, one of the most disgraceful sadistic
nazi perverts in the entire history of usenet, and the reason is
simple enough, by requiring people to CROSS post da "proposals"
to his "moderated" group, he had the power of junking just about
anything there is, and, if they did NOT crosspost it to his "private
property", those articles would not be even considered by his nazi
highness.

Git it?

These pedopheliacs, transvestides and assorted perverts of all kinds,
confused of their own identity, end up being sadists, as that is about
the only thing that can make them feel a lil bit alive,
as their lives are so dull and so perverted,
that they do not feel arousal otherwise.

Unless you screw them in their output hole with a chainsaw,
they do not feel alive.

And THAT is what you really are,
and you KNOW that, suckazoids.
ALL of you.

There isn't a SINGLE ONE OF YOU,
who is not a sick pervert.

Not a SINGLE ONE!
It's something that you
didn't grasp from reading the FAQs.
Nope, this is something that YOU, Stalinist dictators, can not
quite grasp about usenet.

Usenet is about OPEN PUBLIC FORUMS
AND UNCENSORED DISCUSSIONS.

It is never meant to be that nazi Usenet2 model,
invented by herr fuehrer Russ Allbery and documented
on www.usenet2.org

It is not a Stalinist or nazi system designed to facilitate
the sickest of them all, and that is YOU,
no matter for how long you are going to be brainwashing
those "clueless" and "newbies" to believe this is so.
The policy hasn't changed one whit.
What "policy", you sucking loosers?

Who da funk you think you are,
you bunch of sick impostors and pretenders?
I've tried to clarify the FAQs,
One more time: WHO DA FUNK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
to clarify ANYTHING on usenet?

Are you God?
Are you ANY kind of authority
beyond this nazi "committee" scheme you are trying
to push through here?
but the policy
All dictators forever blame some "policy" for what they do.
Because they know all too well, that what THEY do,
is to kill people by millions and destroy just about anything
that does not submit to their biorobotic world view.

You see, THEY are not responsible.
It is DA "policy".

But WHO wrote that "policy", you dirty smut?

Well, it is YOU, nazis.

What is so difficult to grasp?
has always
been that "it's ok to discuss an RFD elsewhere and not just in
n.g.p. or groups named in the RFD."
... the main discussion *must* take place
in n.g.p. as that is the only thread that the B8MB takes notice of and uses
when
making their decisions.
Not how things work,
but how YOU, nazi, would like to MAKE them look like
how they work.

You see the difference?

Or that dimly lit kerosine lamp between your ears
just does not provide enough light?
People may discuss the RFD anywhere they wish.
Oh, thank ya very much,
like a five year old does not know it
before your nazi dictates state so.
The proponent(s) must
Yep.

MUST!
SUBMIT!
OBEY!
FOLLOW YOUR DICTATES TO THE DOT AND COMMA!
and on and on and on.

You see, your nazi mind is so full of filth,
that there isn't even a space for a single functioning neuron.

It is a state of utter delusion.
You are just a bunch of delusional lunatics,
assorted sickos, and complex inferiotity filled sub-idiots,
who do not even know the history of major world events.
participate in the n.g.p threads
to answer all reasonable questions that appear in those
threads.
FUNK YOU.
The members
The DICKS
of the board are free
Sure, YOU, nazis, are FREE,
but the "mortals" MUST,
OBEY,
SUBMIT TO YOUR DICTATES.

Right?

Zo...

What kind of a world view is that?
ANY active neurons in your biorobotic cockpit?
to take notice
Yes. THEY "take notice".
But YOU?

Well, YOU are only to dictate on how the planet Earth
is to turn and how is Sun to be risen in the morning.

That is called a totalitarian sickness.

Ever heard, suxy?
of and
use any material they wish in coming to a decision;
One more time:
WHO DA FUNK YOU THINK YOU ARE
TO TELL ANYBODY HERE WHAT TO DO,
HOW TO THINK
AND WHAT "PROCEDURES" TO FOLLOW?
they
are not obliged to read every thread in every group that
discusses the RFD;
One more time:

These sub-idiotic dictates are talking about something
that is clear to a five year old.

Looks like the next thing you're gonna say
is that YOU, nazis, "officially authorize" them
and permit them to post to usenet.

Right?

Unless you DICTATE so,
nobody is "authorized" to do so.

Is it the idea here,
if there is any on the first place?
the goal of having a focal newsgroup
for discussion of the RFD is to make it easier for
the proponent, the board, and other interested parties
to see the essential elements in the discussion.
What "goal"?
WHO sets these "goals"?

You see, you biorobotic nazi,
you have no authority WHATSOEVER
to state what are the "goals" of usenet,
and what people are to do,
and how to post,
and where to post
and what text to put into the body of a newgroup control
message in order to have a chance to convince a news
admin to carry this group.

All this garbage you are pushing here real hard
is a puppet world of a delusional lunatic,
just like yourself.
Marty
Looks like it is time to change it to Farty,
as you seem to be so out of touch with reality,
that about the only thing you can possibly produce
is these farty sounds.

Well, I mean beyond those sucking sounds you make all the time here.

Right, dummy?
--
Member of the Big-8 Management Board (B8MB) -- http://www.big-8.org
Unless otherwise indicated, I speak for myself, not for the Board.
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