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Big-8 Nazi machine
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nukleus
2006-12-24 02:50:01 UTC
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I am opposed to any system modeled on representative
government. I favor the model of a board of trustees.
The problem is flaw when the board of trustees are selected in a
flawed manner. Their has to a be a degree of trust in the trustee, or
the system will break down.
The previous trustees handed the trust on to their
successors. Simplifying the history: Spaf handed
things over to tale, tale to Russ and the troika,
and the troika to the board.
Which means, that from the very beginning,
it was a totalitarian system.
Neither Spaf nor tale had the unanimous consent
of participants in net.news.group or news.groups.
There is no need for unanimous consent,
because it is possible in a totalitarian arrangement only.

The whole "voting" scam on group creation
required 2/3 of the "votes" to be "yes",
and even that much is also a scam.

Why do you have the "no" votes on the first place,
if you are interested in discovering INTEREST in a group?
Vast majority of usenet participants have no interest
in your group, and, by default, they are "no" votes.
Rediculous, ain't it?
There has always been opposition to the decisions
that the managers of the hierarchy have made.
Like to everything else under the sun.
Marty
nukleus
2006-12-24 02:50:03 UTC
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The previous trustees handed the trust on to their
successors. Simplifying the history: Spaf handed
things over to tale, tale to Russ and the troika,
and the troika to the board.
But Russ still has the keys, doesn't he?
Russ and Todd, I think.
He really doesn't trust you either...
We don't want the key to be given to the
board as a whole or even to a large group of
the board.
First of all, it does not matter what YOU want.
What matters what Russ wants.
It looks like HE is posting the controls with PGP signature
regarding group creation and status.
The fewer people there are who
have the key, the longer it can serve as a
reliable key.
You can rationalize it in any way you please.
You are a group that has fallen in love with the process and
forgotten the product.
The product is a new and improved Checklist.
You mean your totalitarian, "official" group list,
that you can not even send out because you have no key?

What a bunch of pipe dreamers!
Marty
Librarian
2006-12-29 03:21:30 UTC
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"We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would
instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab
world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter-day
Arab hero.

Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely
entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what
would be an unwinable urban guerilla war, it could only
plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability."

--- George H. W. Bush,
Skull and Bones super-secret society initiate
in his 1998 book "A World Transformed",
I am opposed to any system modeled on representative
government. I favor the model of a board of trustees.
The problem is flaw when the board of trustees are selected in a
flawed manner. Their has to a be a degree of trust in the trustee, or
the system will break down.
The previous trustees handed the trust on to their
successors. Simplifying the history: Spaf handed
things over to tale, tale to Russ and the troika,
and the troika to the board.
Which means, that from the very beginning,
it was a totalitarian system.
Neither Spaf nor tale had the unanimous consent
of participants in net.news.group or news.groups.
There is no need for unanimous consent,
because it is possible in a totalitarian arrangement only.

The whole "voting" scam on group creation
required 2/3 of the "votes" to be "yes",
and even that much is also a scam.

Why do you have the "no" votes on the first place,
if you are interested in discovering INTEREST in a group?
Vast majority of usenet participants have no interest
in your group, and, by default, they are "no" votes.
Rediculous, ain't it?
There has always been opposition to the decisions
that the managers of the hierarchy have made.
Like to everything else under the sun.
Marty
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President Bush's grandfather (Prescott Bush) was a director
of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties
to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's
rise to power, government documents show.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031017/ap_on_re_us/presc
ott_bush_nazis_1
Librarian
2006-12-29 03:21:34 UTC
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Among the more curious of the Governor's [Governor Frank Keating-
Oklahoma] activities are, "Numerous meetings and functions with
Ed Meese (former Reagan Attorney General) including a June 1, 1996,
meeting at Bohemian Grove in California, where security was not
allowed to attend with the Governor.

These meetings are a traditional gatherings of the conservative
elements of the Republican party. It is from one of these meetings
that former CIA director William Casey made his famed trip to London
and then, according to several sources to the European continent to
meet with Iranian officials about keeping U.S. Embassy personnel
hostage until after the 1980 election.

excerpted from an article entitled:
Investigators claim Keating "sanitized" airplane usage
by Richard L. Fricker
http://www.tulsatoday.com/newsfeaturesarchive.html

The Bohemian Grove is a 2700 acre redwood forest,
located in Monte Rio, CA.
It contains accommodation for 2000 people to "camp"
in luxury. It is owned by the Bohemian Club.

SEMINAR TOPICS Major issues on the world scene, "opportunities"
upcoming, presentations by the most influential members of
government, the presidents, the supreme court justices, the
congressmen, an other top brass worldwide, regarding the
newly developed strategies and world events to unfold in the
nearest future.

Basically, all major world events including the issues of Iraq,
the Middle East, "New World Order", "War on terrorism",
world energy supply, "revolution" in military technology,
and, basically, all the world events as they unfold right now,
were already presented YEARS ahead of events.

July 11, 1997 Speaker: Ambassador James Woolsey
former CIA Director.

"Rogues, Terrorists and Two Weimars Redux:
National Security in the Next Century"

July 25, 1997 Speaker: Antonin Scalia, Justice
Supreme Court

July 26, 1997 Speaker: Donald Rumsfeld

Some talks in 1991, the time of NWO proclamation
by Bush:

Elliot Richardson, Nixon & Reagan Administrations
Subject: "Defining a New World Order"

John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy,
Reagan Administration
Subject: "Smart Weapons"

So, this "terrorism" thing was already being planned
back in at least 1997 in the Illuminati and Freemason
circles in their Bohemian Grove estate.

"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

--- Former CIA Director William Colby

When asked in a 1976 interview whether the CIA had ever told its
media agents what to write, William Colby replied,
"Oh, sure, all the time."

[NWO: More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also
killed because they were either unwilling to go along with
the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some
capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover
agenda.]
The previous trustees handed the trust on to their
successors. Simplifying the history: Spaf handed
things over to tale, tale to Russ and the troika,
and the troika to the board.
But Russ still has the keys, doesn't he?
Russ and Todd, I think.
He really doesn't trust you either...
We don't want the key to be given to the
board as a whole or even to a large group of
the board.
First of all, it does not matter what YOU want.
What matters what Russ wants.
It looks like HE is posting the controls with PGP signature
regarding group creation and status.
The fewer people there are who
have the key, the longer it can serve as a
reliable key.
You can rationalize it in any way you please.
You are a group that has fallen in love with the process and
forgotten the product.
The product is a new and improved Checklist.
You mean your totalitarian, "official" group list,
that you can not even send out because you have no key?

What a bunch of pipe dreamers!
Marty
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What are the facts about the Jews? (I call them Jews to you,
because they are known as "Jews". I don't call them Jews
myself. I refer to them as "so-called Jews", because I know
what they are). The eastern European Jews, who form 92 per
cent of the world's population of those people who call
themselves "Jews", were originally Khazars. They were a
warlike tribe who lived deep in the heart of Asia. And they
were so warlike that even the Asiatics drove them out of Asia
into eastern Europe. They set up a large Khazar kingdom of
800,000 square miles. At the time, Russia did not exist, nor
did many other European countries. The Khazar kingdom
was the biggest country in all Europe -- so big and so
powerful that when the other monarchs wanted to go to war,
the Khazars would lend them 40,000 soldiers. That's how big
and powerful they were.

They were phallic worshippers, which is filthy and I do not
want to go into the details of that now. But that was their
religion, as it was also the religion of many other pagans and
barbarians elsewhere in the world. The Khazar king became
so disgusted with the degeneracy of his kingdom that he
decided to adopt a so-called monotheistic faith -- either
Christianity, Islam, or what is known today as Judaism,
which is really Talmudism. By spinning a top, and calling out
"eeny, meeny, miney, moe," he picked out so-called Judaism.
And that became the state religion. He sent down to the
Talmudic schools of Pumbedita and Sura and brought up
thousands of rabbis, and opened up synagogues and
schools, and his people became what we call "Jews".

There wasn't one of them who had an ancestor who ever put
a toe in the Holy Land. Not only in Old Testament history, but
back to the beginning of time. Not one of them! And yet they
come to the Christians and ask us to support their armed
insurrections in Palestine by saying, "You want to help
repatriate God's Chosen People to their Promised Land, their
ancestral home, don't you? It's your Christian duty. We gave
you one of our boys as your Lord and Savior. You now go to
church on Sunday, and you kneel and you worship a Jew,
and we're Jews."

But they are pagan Khazars who were converted just the
same as the Irish were converted. It is as ridiculous to call
them "people of the Holy Land," as it would be to call the 54
million Chinese Moslems "Arabs." Mohammed only died in
620 A.D., and since then 54 million Chinese have accepted
Islam as their religious belief. Now imagine, in China, 2,000
miles away from Arabia, from Mecca and Mohammed's
birthplace. Imagine if the 54 million Chinese decided to call
themselves "Arabs." You would say they were lunatics.
Anyone who believes that those 54 million Chinese are Arabs
must be crazy. All they did was adopt as a religious faith a
belief that had its origin in Mecca, in Arabia. The same as the
Irish. When the Irish became Christians, nobody dumped
them in the ocean and imported to the Holy Land a new crop
of inhabitants. They hadn't become a different people. They
were the same people, but they had accepted Christianity as
a religious faith.

These Khazars, these pagans, these Asiatics, these
Turko-Finns, were a Mongoloid race who were forced out of
Asia into eastern Europe. Because their king took the
Talmudic faith, they had no choice in the matter. Just the
same as in Spain: If the king was Catholic, everybody had to
be a Catholic. If not, you had to get out of Spain. So the
Khazars became what we call today "Jews".

--- Benjamin H. Freedman

[Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing
individuals of the 20th century. Born in 1890, he was a successful
Jewish businessman of New York City at one time principal owner
of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry
after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the
remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his
considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the
Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.]
Anne
2007-03-25 19:40:27 UTC
Permalink
I am opposed to any system modeled on representative
government. I favor the model of a board of trustees.
The problem is flaw when the board of trustees are selected in a
flawed manner. Their has to a be a degree of trust in the trustee, or
the system will break down.
The previous trustees handed the trust on to their
successors. Simplifying the history: Spaf handed
things over to tale, tale to Russ and the troika,
and the troika to the board.
Which means, that from the very beginning,
it was a totalitarian system.
Neither Spaf nor tale had the unanimous consent
of participants in net.news.group or news.groups.
There is no need for unanimous consent,
because it is possible in a totalitarian arrangement only.

The whole "voting" scam on group creation
required 2/3 of the "votes" to be "yes",
and even that much is also a scam.

Why do you have the "no" votes on the first place,
if you are interested in discovering INTEREST in a group?
Vast majority of usenet participants have no interest
in your group, and, by default, they are "no" votes.
Rediculous, ain't it?
There has always been opposition to the decisions
that the managers of the hierarchy have made.
Like to everything else under the sun.
Marty
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"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for."

--- Thomas Jefferson
Karl
2007-03-25 19:40:30 UTC
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The previous trustees handed the trust on to their
successors. Simplifying the history: Spaf handed
things over to tale, tale to Russ and the troika,
and the troika to the board.
But Russ still has the keys, doesn't he?
Russ and Todd, I think.
He really doesn't trust you either...
We don't want the key to be given to the
board as a whole or even to a large group of
the board.
First of all, it does not matter what YOU want.
What matters what Russ wants.
It looks like HE is posting the controls with PGP signature
regarding group creation and status.
The fewer people there are who
have the key, the longer it can serve as a
reliable key.
You can rationalize it in any way you please.
You are a group that has fallen in love with the process and
forgotten the product.
The product is a new and improved Checklist.
You mean your totalitarian, "official" group list,
that you can not even send out because you have no key?

What a bunch of pipe dreamers!
Marty
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[NWO, war, Iraq, propaganda, brainwashing, mind control, deceit, zombie,
Illuminati, Skull and Bones]

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein
now has weapons of mass destruction."

--- Dick Cheney
Speech to VFW National Convention
August 26, 2002

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